Part II of getting banned at roadraceautox.com, why the big fuss?!

Updated 12/29/2011 9:38 am – JACKPOT!!  #332 is the reason I got banned!  SO LAME!!

Updated 12/29/2011 9:26 am – WOW #257 (by Giles) IS A BIG ONE!!  SO IS #267 (by Tom)

Updated 12/29/2011 9:04 am – made comments to an older thread message #165 and #183, #244, #245-7, omg wtf, there are so many good replies!!  hahaha…  (go to bottom)

Updated 12/25/2011 9:10 am – shouts out to cRemBor for one of the best name drop entries ever!  on my behalf too…  thanks!  Lets get some BBQ next time brother!

Updated 12/25/2011 6:43 am – after proofreading my writing I made some revisions in sentence structure to hopefully make points easier to understand…

Updated 12/24/2011 8:36 am – the other post was getting rather long so I thought I’d just start another page and call it part II and continue…

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Karen, OK, we lost a few regulars. Sad when it happens. Everyone’s got their reasons. If Frank stayed, I’m willing to bet this forum would have lost more than a few more. –kC
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First, it is Giles or Hoppes or whoevers board and they can do what they want. I’m fine with that. I can either stay here or leave. I’m fine with that, too. However, a lot of people are being pretty fuckin’ ridiculous over this. I’ve only read 10% of GR related posts, but I didn’t really see anything that was a big deal. There are people on here that name drop and brag worse than him. I guess if your driving is a known quantiy or you could sell some nice parts and you have pissed off Giles personally, then it is all good. More annoying than GR is how some respond to him. It makes me think of the Always Sunny high school reunion episodes where Dee is trying to win popularity with the cool kids. This shit is the reason I stopped going to C-C.
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Very good 3rd party observations.  Thank you.  The owner and moderator of rrax are obviously not first class…  not by a long shot.  I suggest they give it up to somebody who is capable and fair.  (like my self).  j/k.  I don’t have time for that.  Actually, if you setup the policy correctly and enforce it correctly the place should be self policing.  Yes there goes the ideal dreamer in me talking again.  it COULD happen.  If there is a need maybe I will create another BBS soon.  More than ten years ago we had T.O.O. Technical Forum and the discussions were absolutely at incredible levels (we attracted talents out of the woodwork).  I think maybe it is time for AKMEE Engineering to have a technical forum soon.  It feels like there is a need for it.

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1. Just because he’s “not as bad as other trolls” doesn’t make it ok. See also: moral equivalence fallacy. He also wasn’t a troll, he was a pompous dick and meant every word he said.

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2. You’re apparently not the only person who feels this way, but really? Who else posts pics and video of themselves with other people for no apparent reason? Or responds to any criticism by justifying their awesomeness with “oh yeah, I’m close personal friends with the Drift King after he drove my car for 10 minutes and loved it more than his first three children”? Maybe I’m more sensitive to his behavior because I was involved with/witness to his HT past. Maybe it’s because despite his claims he seems to have not changed one iota. Seriously though, a guy who has been able to get himself banned from multiple forums, several NASA regions (also despite his claims!), and who knows what else is maybe the type of person who just got what was coming to him.

Yes, you are indeed excessively sensitive.  Now let me ask you why does it appear you take it so personal?  I’m pretty sure I have never met you in person ever and we have no personal affair on any level what so ever.  It might be said that I’ve become exceptionally good at getting under people’s skin and I know how to irritate the heck out of them, just by me doing my little attention whoring and off tangent postings…

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Communal fale – at an embarrassing level. I don’t actually blame Scott and Tom, even though I think they were wrong. But if you were one of the COMMUNITY who went whining to them and made it their problem, rather than apply the first principles that were established to try to make this place different than other similar places, you suck. You’re like those two mothers that klatch at Starbucks, then go to “advocate” to the principal of their kids’ school, to whine about how ALL of the mothers think Ms. Jones isn’t doing a good job – without bothering to talk with Ms. Jones in the first place. Or the serial letter-to-the-editor bitcher in the local newspaper, who doesn’t vote… GROW UP. And I have news for the whole lot of you. You – WE – are all pretty much the same as the guy you bullied out of here; the only difference being degree. Build thread – HEY LOOK AT ME. Race report – HEY LOOK AT ME. Great pics I shot – HEY LOOK AT ME. I say the F-word all the time – HEY LOOK AT ME. Cool thing my kid did – HEY LOOK AT ME. I bought a new [whatthehellever] – HEY LOOK AT ME. Rant about y’all being egomaniacs – HEY LOOK AT ME. No shit? Really…?? But that’s the whole damned point of “here.” It doesn’t work without that dynamic because it generates the content that people come to this community for. I’m disappointed that those of you who drove this move are too childish, or not smart enough, or lack the perspective to get it. Kirk – Who has linked to rr-ax so should be banned, too, I guess…
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I don’t understand the linking thing. Some of you have rrax.com stickers on your car, right? Think of all the people who might see those stickers on the road! Or that guy you race with who you can’t stand! (If somebody ever tells The Toof about this site, I am out of here!) Pat
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It is simple, they wanted to use that as an excuse to ban me.  But by doing so it shows biased they really are against me.  Everyone does it, but if I do it, it’s wrong…

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And I have news for the whole lot of you. You – WE – are all pretty much the same as the guy you bullied out of here; the only difference being degree. Build thread – HEY LOOK AT ME. Race report – HEY LOOK AT ME. Great pics I shot – HEY LOOK AT ME. I say the F-word all the time – HEY LOOK AT ME. Cool thing my kid did – HEY LOOK AT ME. I bought a new [whatthehellever] – HEY LOOK AT ME. Rant about y’all being egomaniacs – HEY LOOK AT ME. No shit? Really…?? But that’s the whole damned point of “here.” It doesn’t work without that dynamic because it generates the content that people come to this community for. I’m disappointed that those of you who drove this move are too childish, or not smart enough, or lack the perspective to get it.

If anyone else posted a “hey look at me!” thread that didn’t have anything in it that was actually done, they’d get a similar response. And if they did it as much as this clown did, I think they’d get a similar action taken. His “build thread” consisted of a picture of a POS Del Sol & then pictures of a shop he apparently walked through once, followed up by pictures of another shop he apparently walked through once. Contrast that with any other build thread here. Saying “Hey look at me!” wasn’t the problem. The problem is that the level of “Hey look at me!” should be correlated to the accomplishment. By and large the rest of the community here keeps those two things in balance. This dude didn’t seem to even understand the concept. Personally, I thought Scott’s original idea of everyone putting him on ignore was a good one and would probably have given it more time to work. But I’m not the one that felt like he had to police the dipshit either. Mark

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I thought this would be a great place for me to wish everyone a Merry Christmas. Hope you have a safe and fun holiday, and let’s hope 2012 is a better year for us all.

(I was going to start a new thread, but the irony of putting this here appealed to my twisted senses)

So I was in Chicago with my boy Frank, we were talking to Kris Kringle from Kaleco Autoparts about a new product were gonna market for the holiday season. You know Kris, he runs that red hot rod with the 8rdp motor…

super nice guy. We ran into him while getting some brisket at this cool bar down the street from the hotel.. don’t remember the name, Frank took me there.

The product is going to revolutinize motorsports! Look for it under the Akmee name.

The Akmee A Round Tuit by Kaleco!

http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main…products_id=20

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LOL. That is one of the best name drop ever dude… Thanks man, you made my day!!

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Wow, Frank has been here what, 2 days now,and I now know more about him than anybody else on this forum. That includes people I have been friends with (in real life, not just on the net) for going on 15 years. People I have shared cars, beers, meals and in some cases beds (both hotel and truck) with.
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Hahaha, I missed this post #165 earlier…  That’s actually an interesting observation Kyle.  But, I must say you only know a small portion of what I’m about…  I’m much much greater than what the people’s perception of myself.  This holds true for everybody on the Internet.  I’m sure we all have greater depth than what people perceived us as…

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I don’t care about GR either way.
I have no issue (so far) with his posts.
I have enjoyed watching for several years spin up the guys on Rennlist. He seems to be quite good at that. But I often wonder why he felt that he needed to play that role.The statement “the Ghettoracer Problem” seems to resonate in my mind vary similar to the statement “the Jewish Problem” from the Nazi’s. But maybe I am reading too much into things.Let him run amuck like anyone else here, until he hangs himself by threatening someone or some other equally stupid thing. Then burn him in effigy.YMMV.cheers
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I love Porsche, the car manufacturer.  Unfortunately, there are lot of dick heads in the Porsche crowd that think they are better than the rest…  the same holds true for BMW Club as well.  Some people think because they are wealthier than the others they are better.  I absolutely dislike guys like that.  There are also plenty of people in DE environment thinks they know what is the best for the students.  These people tend to hold on way too tight and won’t let some of the more talented students develop faster.  They treat everyone like idiots.

Anyway, I do enjoy getting a rise out of the above said people.  And in the past, I’ve gotten lot of private fan mails about doing such a good job.  LOL.

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Guys. Please stop PMing me.Yes, I know he is very likely the biggest douchebag in the history of the internet and many people just plain hate him (understandably so). We all know this and have various feelings about it.He has been given a set of rules to follow, which is way way WAY more effort than I’d have liked to put into the whole thing, and he’ll likely end up being banned because he will either not follow them or dedicate himself to finding a loophole and being a dick within the parameters he’s been given (My money is on #2, probably by the end of the day today).

So please just let it go. Don’t PM me or any of the other guys that steer this boat about him being a cancer or various other disease metaphors. Just do what many have already done and put him on ignore. If nobody is reading and responding he will eventually go away. But I suspect we’ll have to ban him before that happens due to the train wreck aspect.

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Haha, just found this old #244…  it is pretty damn funny.  So Tom laid down the ground rules, which I followed them to the T!  Then I ended up getting banned because I didn’t know the name to the brisket joint.  I guess the owner/mods of rrax totally surrendered to the MOB.  WEAK SAUCE AND NO BACK BONE.  I have no respect for you two.  I came in, made 150 posts in about 24 hours, was quite the sensation and once again proved that I can more than capable of generating hate just by tooting my own horns and babble about non sense.

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Why are you guys reading this crap? let – it- go.
So what if anyone ”reserves the right to sue”. So what, big deal. It’s America, EVERYone reserves the right to sue!
Stop quoting, stop reading, stop feeding it.
sheesh.

No. We gotta tell him we are ignoring him because we are the best damn ignorers on the internet dammit.

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I’m getting FAR more entertainment value out of this from the anti-ghettoracers than the ghettoracer… “Just sayin'”.GA

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I’m getting FAR more entertainment value out of this from the anti-ghettoracers than the ghettoracer… “Just sayin'”.GA

+1. Except it’s one of the VERY few wet pee-piles in the sandbox. Quit feeding and ignore.

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Guys. Please stop PMing me.

Yes, I know he is very likely the biggest douchebag in the history of the internet and many people just plain hate him (understandably so). We all know this and have various feelings about it.

He has been given a set of rules to follow, which is way way WAY more effort than I’d have liked to put into the whole thing, and he’ll likely end up being banned because he will either not follow them or dedicate himself to finding a loophole and being a dick within the parameters he’s been given (My money is on #2, probably by the end of the day today).

So please just let it go. Don’t PM me or any of the other guys that steer this boat about him being a cancer or various other disease metaphors. Just do what many have already done and put him on ignore. If nobody is reading and responding he will eventually go away. But I suspect we’ll have to ban him before that happens due to the train wreck aspect.

Thanks,
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Ban people who PM you about him. Fuck we have a bunch of children around here.

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Guys. Please stop PMing me.

Yes, I know he is very likely the biggest douchebag in the history of the internet and many people just plain hate him (understandably so). We all know this and have various feelings about it.

He has been given a set of rules to follow, which is way way WAY more effort than I’d have liked to put into the whole thing, and he’ll likely end up being banned because he will either not follow them or dedicate himself to finding a loophole and being a dick within the parameters he’s been given (My money is on #2, probably by the end of the day today).

So please just let it go. Don’t PM me or any of the other guys that steer this boat about him being a cancer or various other disease metaphors. Just do what many have already done and put him on ignore. If nobody is reading and responding he will eventually go away. But I suspect we’ll have to ban him before that happens due to the train wreck aspect.

Thanks,
Scott, who unfortunately has to keep an eye on the whole thing and can’t really put him on ignore. Dammit.

Ban people who PM you about him. Fuck we have a bunch of children around here.

[flamesuiton] Is this the appropriate use of the “Report Post” function?  [/flamesuit]

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I truly get the desire from folks that have been around a while to not let Frank shit this board up like he has shit up numerous others in the past.

I get that. I also get that it’s hard to not look at the train wreck.

I also get that it’s hard to not point at and comment on the train wreck.

We can’t make everyone happy and aren’t going to try. We’ve already broken a “rule” of this place in the creation of Frank Rules for Frank, but it was pretty clear that we had to do something, so that’s what we did.
Are the rules “fair?” I dunno and honestly don’t care. But if he follows them he can stay, if he doesn’t he can’t. Done and done.

And pretty pretty please don’t anyone give Hoppe, Karl, Bowie or myself any feedback on the fairness (or lack of) of the Frank Rules. We really don’t care. The smart moderators have him on ignore anyway.

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I’m starting to see were the real problem might have been at honda tech…. I’ve read all of his post s and haven’t been annoyed at all really… it’s not like he’s asking to be anyone’s roommate, it’s a damn forum! I thought this is where the cool kids hung out…haha
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Honestly I don’t understand the haters’ mentality…  But perhaps it’s safe to say that they’re just mad jealous because their life SUCK and mine is WONDERFUL.  LOL.

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this GR stuff sure beats rulebook fights 
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So I had a quick discussion with ol’ ghettoracer and he won’t be a problem.

Let’s say this. If you’d like to ignore him, stay out of this thread, and his build thread, and he should be invisible otherwise.

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II’ve seen far far far worse on a messageboard than this guy. He’s kinda weaksauce and overhyped thus far.

So you’re daring him?????

 well, if you put it that way…

but no, I really can’t see how you guys got so wound up about this guy in the first place. Maybe I’ve been numbed by so many Mustang-driving trolls in the past or something. And Corner-Carvers (and similar, heh).

I guess it could’ve just been an “accumulates over time and then you’ve just had enough” type thing for you guys.

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Well Ken, I’m kind of a Mr. Know It All type so…  I could easily get on some people’s nerve…  but only if they are insecure.  🙂

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So a brisket comment and a question of where it came from becomes another post about who he knows, will be doing business with, and who has what rep. With no info on where he got the motherfucking brisket.

Hoppe, if you want to ban him just go ahead. I’m not going to keep reading his shit in an effort to police his doucheyness. I haven’t done anything to deserve that punishment.

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Cool, he’s banned
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Ahh, there it is!!  #332 is the reason I got banned.  LOL.  #335 Tom sealed the deal.


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